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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 5:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: breaking (up) news

GD was certainly great for longer than 6 years. Much longer.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 21, 2011 6:27pm
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Why, because you started going to shows?

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 6:31pm
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guess i tripped your trigger eh partner?

You know I never saw them cliff. The concert experience is totally separate from the listening experience. Never saw them so this is how I judge them, by the music, not by any of the stuff that all you folks went through, good or bad.

Do you seriously feel that the dead only had a few good years?

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 21, 2011 6:42pm
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I honestly cant find much worth listening to that was performed after 1981...

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: breaking (up) news

I just don't get it, if anything I would think brents crazy key sound in 79-81 would drive you crazy.

My life wouldn't be as good if I hadn't heard that dew from 94, and it wouldnt be as good if I didnt hear it a bunch more. My argument is that there are goodies in every year. In general the dead seemed to stop the consistency of putting out epic shows after 74. Before this it was rare to have a month without a jaw dropper in the mix. Post 74 they became fewer and more far between. 77 was the exception. The rest are typically riddled with average performances with a gem or two. Then you might get something really great like the Alpine 89 run, or in fact that whole month of july. But again that was a rarity. I wont argue that 68-74 are the most consistently amazing years. But theres plenty of dead out there I love from other years, and I dont care about shows, i care about versions of songs.

the kid and the cliff, perma-head-butting.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Sep 21, 2011 7:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: breaking (up) news

Although you are now my enemy after what you've said about Clapton, I have pretty much the same opinion about the Dead's greatness through their career. There is way too much good music from the 80's and even 90's to dismiss those years. Sure they weren't as consistent but there were still so many magical shows that I would never only listen to 60's & 70's Dead. Although maybe 85% of my collection is from '66 - '74, I often seek something different and many of the later shows are perfect for that. I even love some of '95. Some of the most beautiful Jerry ballads were from the mid 90's.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 7:39pm
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lmao.

;)

DIE YOU BLUES LOVING ASS!

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 21, 2011 7:07pm
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Who's Brent?

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 7:11pm
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which is why i don't get you stop at 81...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 21, 2011 5:46pm
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To hear some people tell it, the Grateful Dead were good for about six weeks, in the spring of 1968 or maybe it was 1969. After that, pfffft, nothin' worth listening to.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Sep 21, 2011 6:21pm
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i see you've been reading my posts, quite closely it seems too

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 21, 2011 6:34pm
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LOL

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 5:55pm
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sarcasm?

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 21, 2011 6:00pm
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A verrrrrry slight exaggeration. Regarding some people's views, that is (not mine).

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2011 6:02pm
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word up. The grateful dead made magic their entire career. It just became much less frequent as the years continued, or varied from period to period etc. the 90's being the most obvious decline in playing. Anyone who says theres nothing good post brent, keith or pig is delusional, simple as that.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 21, 2011 6:20pm
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I guess it's pretty obvious when you got on the bus...

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Sep 21, 2011 7:02pm
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yup ....the bus was.... out of service !!!!!!!!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 21, 2011 8:41pm
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Smarty pants; actually, I love this thread (got my CREAM comments in...perfect!): I give them EXACTLY six yrs.

Always have: 65-71. No exaggeration. Hey, I only give CREAM two yrs, so cut me some slack.

;)

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 21, 2011 8:51pm
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Hm, ok, I didn't realize you went as far back as '65 (seriously? there's stuff worth listening to from '65? if you say so. I'm highly unlikely to listen to '65, to me that's like, you're missing the point, but I know I can't really say that, you saw them an awful lot more than I ever did). anyway.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 21, 2011 8:54pm
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Wait a minute--you really haven't been reading my posts? I've been saying the first six yrs for...well, six yrs, almost...har, har; but seriously.

Oh yeah--the garage band stuff is a lot more fun than one of my 78 "yawn" shows (Grendel?)...Early Morning Rain? Phil? YOu gotta love it!

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 21, 2011 8:57pm
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No, I read your posts, I guess I just can't believe you're serious about '66. Seriously, that is of historical interest, but it's hard for me to believe anyone seriously argues they were BETTER then than in, say, '76. I think you stretch your point a bit :) I will listen to '66 but it's out of interest in their history, the same way I will listen to something from the '90's - occasionally, for interest and because there are worthwhile bits here and there. If I had to explain the Grateful Dead to someone who had just arrived from another planet, I wouldn't suggest they start listening to '66 or '95.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 21, 2011 10:06pm
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Right; I'd go right to one of the studio albums, either from 70.

But, March of 67 would number three, with Golden Road, and that links to 65 and 66 quite closely.

So, like you, I see the historical roots of 65 as critical, and say, thus "65-71 are the best yrs, IMHO" just as I would say CREAM was great, but would pick 67 over 66 or 68 to introduce someone to them (well analogy breaks down cause they were still great in 68, but that would be like the DEAD if they stopped in 71...well, okay, 72 or 73 would be acceptable).

Assume that makes sense...

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Sep 21, 2011 8:01pm
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Therefore they were better than REM. Logic always wins out.